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For instance, Ukraine has no nuclear arms, but in our country let us think about how
we have a group of clever men with a lot of information who can intrude into your
national infrastructure and tell you in diplomatic terms how to listen.
That is why my aim is teach an understanding of cyberwar as control superiority and
this obtaining of control superiority is a deterrence mission; there is no other deterrence
mission now, such as a nuclear mission - all of us want to live in peace but only if the
deterrence mission provides freedom for the civil information infrastructure. And if you
take action against this civil infrastructure, you are terrorists. And international law has
to understand that and begin to provide a political frontier especially against an offending
country.
Unfortunately war causes a class division. I guess that this could also be a religious
understanding, but the two are not so dissimilar.
Erez
: I would like to comment rather than directly to ask, but my comments will be in
two fields - first of all, in one of the conclusions you gave you spoke about the need of
cooperation between countries in order to fight the phenomena of cyberwar and
cyberterrorism. One of the problems I see is a problem of definition; there is no
acceptable definition between countries, at least in the countries of Europe and the
European Union on, for instance, terrorism. For war there is a definition, there is a
chapter in the United Nations Charter, there is a court that can judge by international law
on kinds of war. But there is no acceptable definition of terrorism and even if our
scholars can come to any agreement, any declaration, any treaty, anything in the world,
they will never find a definition. Everyone speaks about countering terrorism, about
fighting terrorism, but when they go home and ask what is terrorism, they do not have a
definition. And this problem is the main one, in my view, in the fight against terrorism.
One of the problems is that of different values. You said some of today's terrorists are
not educated, but they
are
educated and the problem is therefore the interpretation of
their education. So the question is not only always about uneducated people; the problem
is the kind of interpretation of beliefs and traditions in order for people to achieve goals.
Another comment I would like to make is our talk of cyberterrorism or even cyberwar;
a potential terrorist needs an infrastructure, and the need of an infrastructure mostly is
provided by the host country. So one of the ways to fight terrorism is to locate the
countries that play host to terrorists or potential terrorists. From these very experiences
and I believe also from American experience, we have an attack of all kind of hackers.
We have had some attacks against infrastructure facilities like electricity and water
control in Israel. This comes from regions where you can actually pinpoint a country;
these came from Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia. So it means at least people who are using
infrastructure are originating from somewhere that you can pinpoint. And the problem is
that the international community cannot or is not yet ready to declare and to act against
such countries who give infrastructure to these people.
Another point I would like to raise is when you spoke about information and searching
for information, I think our problem, in an age of information explosion, is not the lack of
information but the incapability of human beings at all levels to understand, to search and
to take out the information which is crucial to decision-making. Because so much
information is collected, it is essential if useful information arrives at the desk of
someone who has to read it and to find the crucial point in the information for decision-
making. And this is one of the problems of our era, not information, but analysing the
information.
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