METHODOLOGY OF PROTECTING THE STATE INFORMATION RESOURCES IN INFORMATION AND TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS IN UKRAINE - Cyberwar-Netwar: Security in the Information Age - page 139

DISCUSSION OF CHAPTER 7:
METHODOLOGY OF PROTECTING THE STATE INFORMATION
RESOURCES IN INFORMATION AND TELECOMMUNICATION
SYSTEMS IN UKRAINE
Prof. Serge Kolobov
with contributions from Dr. M. Uneri, Capt. L. Policarpo, Col. D. Handy, Dr. G. Aharoni, Dr. A. Gabovych,
Maj.General L. Vellone, Dr. M. Valente, Dr. B. Buyukoner, Dr. A. Erez
Uneri : I thank Professor Kolobov for the simple, clear and organized report. My
comment is very small. I am very happy to hear that protection of complex systems is
very similar to our Turkish approach. We have the same four stages that I already
described and work done in these phases is very similar. I am so happy because this
means that we are in the same and the right direction.
Policarpo : You mentioned that the first steps were taken in 1998, when Ukraine
started to build up this kind of organism. Have you conducted any kind of special studies
in friendly countries or is this based only on your own experience? Do you have any
organization as the basis to establish your own organization?
Kolobov : We started in 1998 to think and try to prove to our politicians the necessity
of the creation of such a kind of system. We, at that time, did not start to do anything just
with our private organizations, I mean with our plans and with our companies. No, we
were just trying to prove to our politicians that we really needed to adopt a law about
creation of such a kind of system in Ukraine. That was really difficult for us. We spent so
much time just speaking with different Ministers in Ukraine, speaking with Senators, etc.
In parallel, we made preparations, tried to create technical projects for certain subsystems
of that particular system and at the time we worked together with our French colleagues
who were already experienced in that branch. We also tried to speak with other
countries, but unfortunately, that kind of information was restricted. I think in was in
January 2001 that we gathered information from the Internet about the 'Govnet' network.
Richard Clark is an advisor to the President of the United States and every speech of
Clark's was very useful for us. He just gave us good arguments for our politicians that
showed we were on the right way and how we really needed to do this in Ukraine.
Handy : I can give you the website to our CERT, which is www.cert.mil . So you have
not been able to establish any contacts with the DOD CERT at all at this point, in all of
your searches even through the Internet?
Kolobov : Right now we are trying to do that, and we already have contacts with
organizations in Europe, such as Trans-European and CERTs and scientific and
educational networks, and we are now trying to make contacts with government level
CERTs.